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Trellis

 

I built a trellis.  I think it looks pretty cool.  I went to Menards (a Midwest lumber/hardware store) and bought these 24 inch brackets that you hammer into the ground, essentially, huge spikes.  The top end is square and accepts a 4x4 post.  Cost-wise, it wound up being about the same as buying the post cement.  Anyway, the trellis now creates a doorway into the orchard.  I still have to restring the wires for the grape vines, which will eventually grow back toward the trellis.  I'd like to have some climbing plant with nice flowers grow over the trellis.  We'll see.


 

 

Pergola

July 4, 2009 -  Now I'm working on putting in a patio, with a pergola on top.  The total patio space is 24'x24'.  The pergola is going to be 19'x16'.  I originally thought I would extend the garage roof out over the patio, but eventually decided to go with a pergola, after seeing an example in a local garden center.  I want to surround the pillars with blocks up to waist high, and cap them with a solid stone.
First, I dug down 11 inches.  I had no misconceptions how hard it would be to dig a hole 24'x24'x11" deep, so I rented a Bobcat for a day.  I also used it to bring together some large stones that were scattered about the property.  I found out that there is a lot of clay in our yard.  I was able to dig the hole except for one corner, but it was a lot of ripping and tearing.  I also tried to create a space beside my workshop, but that proved futile.  Lesson learned:  get a blade with teeth.  The blade I got with the Bobcat was smooth.

After I had the hole more or less formed, I used my post hole digger to go  down another 27 inches in four holes, for the pillar footings, per instructions from the local lumberyard (39 inches total depth).   

If I had been smarter, I would have framed the concrete forms together, to ensure they were spaced properly.  They did move around when I was pouring the concrete.  I did have strings to align the J-bolts I set in the concrete, so it isn't totally screwed up.

 

 

 

  The next step was to get 10 yards of crushed rock laid down to fill the hole back in.  The lumberyard made three deliveries, but it seemed like not enough.  I measured the pile, and it was roughly 12' wide and 4' tall.  The volume of a cone, in square yards, is (1/3 x pi x radius (squared) x height) divided by 27.  That came out to 5.58 yards.  When I spread the gravel out in the hole, it pretty much confirmed my calculations.  I talked to the yard, and they were good about making another delivery to bring it up to 10 yards.  They assumed the scoop they used was one yard, when it was actually about .8 yard. 
 I used 2" PVC pipe to gauge how much gravel I was laying down.  I also rented a compactor to pack each layer.   I started to move the gravel at first with a wheelbarrow, but that was obviously going to take a long time, so I rented the Bobcat again.  That made the whole process much faster.   

 

  I also used the Bobcat to dig out a few more rocks I missed the first time.  There was one just barely sticking out of the ground in the back of the yard that I chewed around on.  Eventually, I used a shovel to try to find some edges, and I found out there was a lot more rock than I thought.

 

 

7/28/2009 update - I went to a local stone store and picked out four red sandstone pieces, 24 inches square and at least 2 inches thick.  I also bought a 3/8 masonry bit for my drill , which has a hammer function, to try to make square holes in the center of my capstones for the posts to fit through.  It proved completely inadequate.  I spent 30 minutes trying to drill one hole in a capstone.  So I went to the hardware store and rented a real hammer drill and a four inch masonry hole saw.  The hammer drill came with a variety of bits, and I discovered that the masonry hammer bit worked very well, going through the capstone like it was butter.  I tried the hole saw (which I rented separately) for one hole, and decided to just use the masonry bit.  The masonry bit did cause a lot of knock-out on the underside.  Eventually I settled on drilling out all four corners, flipping the capstone over and cutting between the holes with a masonry blade on my circular saw, and then going back to the original side and drilling out between the holes with the hammer drill and masonry bit.  Between slowing down just before I punched through and scoring the underside, I minimized the knock-out damage.  

When I was looking at all the options, every place I checked wanted an extra $100 apiece to make a six inch hole in a 24 inch square piece of rock.  My advice:  keep the money, rent a hammer drill, and set your hose to trickle water on the piece as you work, to keep the dust down and the bit cool.

 

 

 

  The next step was to notch out the 6x6s and bolt them together.  Getting a 20 foot long crossbeam into place with just me and my kids was a challenge, but we got it done.  The concrete footings actually came out very well.  Both sets were 163 1/2 inches apart.  I assembled the first set of posts and crossbeam, and slid a capstone up each leg, and then secured them with some scraps and screws.  Then I stacked the second set of posts and crossbeam on top of the first set, and notched and bolted them together, as well.  Now I'm waiting until this Friday when hopefully some guys from work will be able to come out and help me stand them up and get the support rafters bolted on

  

 
8/7/2009 update - The guys came over and were a huge help in getting the posts and crossbeams up and braced.  We also lifted up the first four rafters, and nailed them to the posts, to make it easier to bolt them together.  Then I got out my12 inch drill bit I bought for this special job, and drilled two holes through the posts and 2x8s, and bolted everything together with ten inch carriage bolts.  The guys also carried over a bunch of the 2x8s in preparation for cutting and lifting.  I wasn't sure what kind of decorative detail I wanted, and they had to go, so that was where we stopped.  It was still a huge step forward.  

 

 

 

  I freehanded a pattern for the tails of the rafters, and cut out a jig.  You can see it propped up against the stack of rafters ready to be lifted into place in the picture to the left. 

Cutting and stacking the rafters in a new pile took another evening after work to accomplish.  Cutting the tails on the four rafters already up and bolted tot he posts was a short, but very dirty job.

I went to Menards and got one of those ladders that fold into different configurations.  It is not a Little Giant, but it does a lot of the same stuff.  You can climb up either side, which I really like, and will extend up to 21 feet, if necessary.  I bought a bunch of rafter ties, which have a large surface area for attaching to the top plate of a wall, and mounted them on the backside of the crossbeam closest to the house.  After doing the math, I figured out that I had to space the rafters at 7 15/16ths, so I cut a block to that length and used it to space the rafters as I went from one side to the other.  I also got some premium deck screws at Menards, and used those to connect the rafters tot he front crossbeam, screwing up through the crossbeam into the rafter.  Screws designed specifically for decking are a whole different breed of cat from a drywall screw, nowadays.  They have a cutting tip so they punch in, and use a star drive bit, and go through wood like it was butter.

So, some more gravel, some sand, and I can start contemplating laying down some bricks.

 

 

 

  Digging out the hole for the patio dislodged a bunch of seeds the chipmunks had stashed around the yard.  We've got a number of things volunteering in our yard, from field corn to this very pretty batch of sunflowers.  This picture really doesn't do them justice.
 
8/24/2009 Update - I managed to install some corner braces, and also a set of 2x4s  and some blocking to help lock the purlins in place.  Screwing 1/2 inch lag screws through a 6x6 into another 6x6 was a lot of fun.  I really wanted a breaker bar by the time I had that done.  I have a 3/4 inch socket set with a two foot long ratchet handle, somewhere.  Once I had them all in place I cut some blocks from a2x4 and screwed them inbetween the purlins on the front of the pergola.  The backside is all secured with hurricane straps.  Then I cut decorative ends on 19 foot 2x4s and bolted them to the upright posts, on top of the purlins, and then screwed them down into the purlins to lock everything in place.

 

 

  So, now it's back to hauling gravel.  My boys had some friends over, so we had a working party.  I'm glad we didn't have to move it very far.  Did I mention that Tru Temper wheelbarrows SUCK nowadays, at least the common grade ones?  The front wheel axle and bearing set is sloppy, the bar that joins the two handles together in front of the wheel needs another bend to it so it can't rotate over and stop the wheel from turning, and the undercarriage is flimsy and completely worthless, a total waste of $60.   

I laid in 2x4s to get the pitch right.  I probably didn't make it severe enough.  Online sources said to give the patio a 1/8th to 1/4 drop per foot, and I'm only dropping mine 2 inches over 24 feet.  I guess we'll have to see how it goes.  I had the lumber yard deliver another 2 yards of gravel and it is still not going to be enough.  I probably need another 2 yards before I'm ready for sand.  But right now, I need to rent the compactor (again) and smoosh down what I have spread out so far (again).  Online sources are unclear whether or not to compact the sand.  I've found sites that say do, and others that say don't.

9/15/2009 Update - Well, it's been a busy time.  We took a vacation the last week of August, to go to a cabin in northern Minnesota.  Got some good fishing in.  I did get several days over the Labor Day weekend to work fulltime on the patio.  I rented the compactor, again, and packed everything down really well.  Then I bought 4 yards of sand.  I added 1 1/2 inches to the height of the depth rails, and started hauling sand, and screeding it. 

I calculated that I needed 2457 pavers, so I went to Stoughton Lumber and talked to them about pavers.  I had a brain flash about using some accent pavers, so I told them I wanted 2100 "Iron River" Holland pavers (a mix of red, black and blue), and 350 "Charcoal" (grey) pavers.  They only had 880 Iron River pavers and no charcoals, so I took what hey had and bought 350 charcoals at Menards.  Hauling them home in my trailer was a long, slow ride.  I even had to stop right outside Menards to fill the tires of the trailer with air.  I thought pavers were 4 pounds, but I was told they are six, so I was 100lbs. over my trailer's weight limit.  Stoughton Lumber delivered the pavers right up to the worksite, and left me room for the trailer load, so all the pavers were all very close at hand, which helped out a lot.

I started laying pavers on the outside corner, next to the garage, as I wanted the patio to extend from the edge of the garage out into the yard, and any adjustments would be buried in the corner that is partially covered by the stairs coming up out of the garage.  You are supposed to start in the center and work your way sideways in both directions, but I had the sand all spread and screeded, so I decided not to do it that way.  I decided to use a straight basket weave pattern.  This does require a fair number of half pavers around the edges, so I got out my brick chisel and split the entire first layer of one pallet of Iron River pavers.  The accent rectangle of Charcoal pavers under the pergola required a lot of half pavers, too, so I wasn't worried about splitting too many. 

I did not have a set of paver tongs at first, and actually laid the first 1600 pavers without them.  It was not a lot of fun stacking, hauling, and then unstacking all those pavers.  I finally went looking for a pair of tongs.  Stoughton Lumber didn't have any, neither did Menards nor Home Depot.  I finally had to go to County Concrete.  It was $35, and worth every penny.  It makes hauling pavers so much easier, there is no comparison.

So, I have almost all the pavers in place.  I have to cut a few and fill in the last few pieces.  I still have to sheath the pergola columns.  I've decided to use Charcoal pavers for that, too.  That should look nice, capped with the red sandstone.  I still need to rent the compactor again, and pack everything down. 

 

   

       

       

       

   

 
11/15/2009 Update - The patio is now complete, and I've started on a couple other projects.  The red pavers with gray accent looks pretty nice.

 

There was disagreement on how to sheath the columns, and I'm not totally in love with what I came up with.  The footing for the columns stood proud f the pavers by a couple inches, so anything I came up with had to start wide enough to surround the footings.  I used a layer of gray pavers, and then lap-jointed some 6x6s to get above the footings, and hen I sheathed the columns with 2x8s, up to a 4x4 cap, which the stone tops rest upon.

 

 

Flower Garden I

Cindy decided she wanted a flower garden surrounding the stump I left behind from one of the pine trees I cut down.  I left he stump about chest-high, so we could mount a feeder on top, maybe to attract squirrels or woodpeckers.  So, I dug a trench in a circle around the stump, layed in two inches of sand, and built a wall two blocks high with Iron River landscape blocks, topped with gray capstones, to tie into the patio.  I used some of the same landscape blocks on one corner of the patio, as it cut into a slope and I didn't feel like regrading it.  Anyway, it wasn't a whole lot of work, and I think it looks pretty nice..  


 

 

Flower Garden II

 

The patio butts up against another flower garden.  I decided to loop out around it with more of the Iron River landscape blocks and gray caps.  This actually took a lot of work.  You wouldn't think it would be so much digging, but a 12 inch wide trench cut 9 inches deep actually turns into a fair amount of dirt.  The trench linked up with the patio on one and, and ran out to a point in space on the other.  Eventually, we are going to build a fire pit off the end of the patio, but that is a project for next year, so I ran the blocks out around the flower garden and then just left it, to be finished once the fire pit is done. 

I made a short form from 2x4, 12 inches wide and about 18 inches long, open on one end, to get the depth of the sand right.  It had to be that short in order to fit in all the curves of the trench.  The boys and I worked the form along the bottom of the trench, putting in 3 1/2 inches of sand, which tamped down to 2 1/2 inches of packed sand, with the hand tamper.  The boys got the honor of hauling all the landscaping blocks and capstones over from the pallets, and now the second flower garden is as done as it is going to be, until the fire pit is made.

 


 

 

Workshop Wall

I rented the Bobcat one more time in October, and dug out a space beside the workshop so I have a place to park my trailers.  I got the blade with teeth this time, so I could get into the clay.  It was hard work, and I really messed up the back yard hauling bucket after bucket of heavy clay back to the woods.  I have deep ruts to fill in, now.  I made a huge pile of dirt.  It was actually a lot more dirt than I dug up when I cut out the base for the patio.  I wasn't able to remove all the dirt I wanted to.  Cindy had car trouble and I had to go help her, and it started to rain while I was gone, and the whole thing turned into a greasy pit.  I was lucky to get the Bobcat out of the worksite  Stoughton Lumber dropped off 10 more yards of gravel with the Bobcat, right on the driveway, so I spread that about 6 inches deep over the part I did manage to dig out, and  then made a pile with the remainder near the back corner of the workshop. 

 

The next step was to build a little retaining wall for the hostas planted along the side of the workshop.  The boys and I dug another trench, 12 inches wide, nine inches deep, 32 feet long, and wrapped around the corner on the back end.  It was a lot of work as it had to be done by hand and there was a lot of clay, and it was almost like peanut butter.  It took four days to get this trench cut.  I never would have estimated it would be that much work, but that clay was next to impossible to work with.    It was a straight shot, though, so we were able to use long 2x4s to ensure the sand base was level. We shoveled in 3 1/2 inches of sand and tamped it down, laid in the blocks, and topped with the charcoal capstones.  It is too cold to use any glue, so next summer I'll have to go over it and glue all the caps in place.  I still need to build a retaining wall, but now I have a place to park the trailers so they are out of the way of the mowers and snowblowers.

 


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